1390 ارديبهشت 21، 6:04
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آثار هنری به دو دلیل ارزشمندند، اول اینکه توسط استادان به وجود آمده اند. دوم اینکه تعدادشان کم است .شما گنج پر ارزشی هستید، زیرا توسط بزرگترین استاد خلق شده اید و فقط یکی هستید. 
آثار هنری به دو دلیل ارزشمندند، اول اینکه توسط استادان به وجود آمده اند. دوم اینکه تعدادشان کم است .شما گنج پر ارزشی هستید، زیرا توسط بزرگترین استاد خلق شده اید و فقط یکی هستید. 
1390 ارديبهشت 21، 19:00
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Hello Guys
First of all you are misunderstanding me
I ve never said that Germany is better than iran
But I wanted to compare the situation in germany and iran
I would never even think about it
l
First of all you are misunderstanding me
I ve never said that Germany is better than iran
But I wanted to compare the situation in germany and iran
I would never even think about it
lاگر تنهاترين تنها شوم باز خدا هست او جانشين همه نداشتنهاست (دکتر علی شریعتی)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 1:15 Hello dear friends
thanks for Eshtiagh & Tavallod for their great discussion.I appreciate it. but dear friends I think that our situation in Iran is not as good as you said
we must not pay attention to Tehran only, and if we explore the conditions of other province and cities we obviously will see what a bad situation we have! just think about it without any preconception
I don't want to pretend that Iran is a bad country but neither I want to mislead myself and others
we are not like developed countries and in some cases we are really in worst conditions(for example the rights of nations other than pertians-Turks,Kurds,Arabs,Baloochs,Lors,..-and rights of religions other than she'a -like sunni muslims and .. and we also have very very much diffrences in wages) that are not undeniable,
there are many bad rules and traditions in our society - sometimes under islam's name!- that are shamefull really.1
but we also have some good things that exclusively are belonged to iran
we love iran and we want it the best country in the world
unfortunately i cant say all of my opinions respect to this topic in english
thanks for Eshtiagh & Tavallod for their great discussion.I appreciate it. but dear friends I think that our situation in Iran is not as good as you said
we must not pay attention to Tehran only, and if we explore the conditions of other province and cities we obviously will see what a bad situation we have! just think about it without any preconception
I don't want to pretend that Iran is a bad country but neither I want to mislead myself and others
we are not like developed countries and in some cases we are really in worst conditions(for example the rights of nations other than pertians-Turks,Kurds,Arabs,Baloochs,Lors,..-and rights of religions other than she'a -like sunni muslims and .. and we also have very very much diffrences in wages) that are not undeniable,
there are many bad rules and traditions in our society - sometimes under islam's name!- that are shamefull really.1
but we also have some good things that exclusively are belonged to iran
we love iran and we want it the best country in the world
unfortunately i cant say all of my opinions respect to this topic in english
سلام دوستان عزیزم.
مدتی که باهاتون آشنا شدم و در خدمتتون بودم خیلی ازتون استفاده کردم. بهم کمک کردید.عوضش من براتون کاری نکردم. شایدهم دل بعضی هاتون رو شکستم و با حرفهای گنده تر از دهنم ناراحتتون کردم. الان از ته ته دلم پشیمونم و امیدوارم عذرمو بپذیرید و شمام از ته ته دل حلالم کنید. ازین به بعد دیگه نمی تونم بیام. دیگه هیچوقت نمیام. مواظب خودتون و همدیگه باشید.خواهر برادرای خوب همدیگه باشید. هدفتون یادتون نره. دعا می کنم که همه مون بتونیم انسانانه زندگی کنیم. شمام دعا کنید و عملا زندگیتون رو هم دراین جهت اداره کنید. به امید خدا.
فراموشتون نمی کنم و دوستتون دارم، تک تکتون رو. دعام کنید.
خدانگهدار همه و در پناه رحمت او
مدتی که باهاتون آشنا شدم و در خدمتتون بودم خیلی ازتون استفاده کردم. بهم کمک کردید.عوضش من براتون کاری نکردم. شایدهم دل بعضی هاتون رو شکستم و با حرفهای گنده تر از دهنم ناراحتتون کردم. الان از ته ته دلم پشیمونم و امیدوارم عذرمو بپذیرید و شمام از ته ته دل حلالم کنید. ازین به بعد دیگه نمی تونم بیام. دیگه هیچوقت نمیام. مواظب خودتون و همدیگه باشید.خواهر برادرای خوب همدیگه باشید. هدفتون یادتون نره. دعا می کنم که همه مون بتونیم انسانانه زندگی کنیم. شمام دعا کنید و عملا زندگیتون رو هم دراین جهت اداره کنید. به امید خدا.
فراموشتون نمی کنم و دوستتون دارم، تک تکتون رو. دعام کنید.
خدانگهدار همه و در پناه رحمت او
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 8:41
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(1390 ارديبهشت 20، 21:00)eshtiagh نوشته است:I traveld many times to iran
but I ve never lived there
so maybe you can tell me how it is in iran and discribe me the situation
well
there are some bright points and some realy dark points in discribtion iran
I'l discribe one of those dark points
last summer in ramedan month we were going to my grandfathers house for eftar
we were in the way while the azan was being told
when we arrived to the first crossroads , you can't belive what I saw
It was like that people are drunk
they moved from all 4 ways in the same time and passed the red light
and this way they made a real heavy traffic
all for ways became blocked
when we arrived there the light became green
we waited untill the light became red and then it became green again and in the end we could pass while many
others were still stucked
in iran drivers don't care about laws vary much untill they are forced to !
there is a joke they say about it :
an iranian man crossed the red light
a police officer got him and asked him "didn't you see the red light ? "
the man answered I saw the red light but I didn't see you !
we have great cultral problems like this in iran
there are some bright points and some realy dark points in discribtion iran
I'l discribe one of those dark points
last summer in ramedan month we were going to my grandfathers house for eftar
we were in the way while the azan was being told
when we arrived to the first crossroads , you can't belive what I saw
It was like that people are drunk
they moved from all 4 ways in the same time and passed the red light
and this way they made a real heavy traffic
all for ways became blocked
when we arrived there the light became green
we waited untill the light became red and then it became green again and in the end we could pass while many
others were still stucked
in iran drivers don't care about laws vary much untill they are forced to !
there is a joke they say about it :
an iranian man crossed the red light
a police officer got him and asked him "didn't you see the red light ? "
the man answered I saw the red light but I didn't see you !
we have great cultral problems like this in iran
فَوَعِزَّتِكَ مَا أَجِدُ لِذُنُوبِی سِوَاكَ غَافِراً وَ لاَ أَرَى لِكَسْرِی غَیْرَكَ جَابِراً
به عزتت سوگند براى گناهانم جز تو آمرزنده اى نيابم و براى شکستگيم جز تو شکسته بندى نبينم
(بخشی از مناجات التّائبین مناجات خمس عشره)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 9:48
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We have a great cultural problems, I know
First of all, nobody can deny that Germaney is developed country and we are still developing!
Dear Mosamam!
I don't agree with your following sentences
!First of all, nobody can deny that Germaney is developed country and we are still developing!
Dear Mosamam!
I don't agree with your following sentences
(1390 ارديبهشت 22، 1:15)مصمم.. نوشته است:Hello dear friends
we are not like developed countries and in some cases we are really in worst conditions(for example the rights of nations other than pertians-Turks,Kurds,Arabs,Baloochs,Lors,..-and rights of religions other than she'a -like sunni muslims and .. and we also have very very much diffrences in wages) that are not undeniable,
english
Let me give an example to see how the condition is in other countries!
About one ago, I required to transfer some money to the Netherlands. When I go to money exchanger the cashier told me that you can't write your name on the bank recipt!!!!! and you know what was the reason?! Because my name is Hadi!!!!!!! an arabic name. is this according the rights of humans!!!!
and some countries don't allow girls to attend classes with scarf! Iran's parleman has seats for other religions. what about Germaney?!
I compeletly agree that Germany is more developed than Iran, but they don't follow the rights of humanity and etc as well as us
!!!!
About one ago, I required to transfer some money to the Netherlands. When I go to money exchanger the cashier told me that you can't write your name on the bank recipt!!!!! and you know what was the reason?! Because my name is Hadi!!!!!!! an arabic name. is this according the rights of humans!!!!
and some countries don't allow girls to attend classes with scarf! Iran's parleman has seats for other religions. what about Germaney?!
I compeletly agree that Germany is more developed than Iran, but they don't follow the rights of humanity and etc as well as us
هرچند حال و روز زمین و زمان بد است \ یک قطعه از بهشت در آغوش مشهد است
حتی فرشته ای که به پابوس آمده \ انگار بین رفتن و ماندن مردّد است
اینجا مدینه نیست، نه اینجا مدینه نیست \ پس بوی عطر کیست که مثل محمد است؟
حتی اگر به آخرخط هم رسیده ای \ اینجا برای عشق شروعی مجدد است
جایی که آسمان به زمین وصل می شود \ جایی که بین عالم و آدم، زبانزد است
هر جا دلی شکست به این جا بیاورید \ اینجا بهشت، شهر خدا، شهر مشهد است
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حسین ارام جانم، حسین روح و روانم
بیا نگار اشنا، شب غمم سحر نما
مرا به نوکری خود، شها تو مفتخر نما
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 15:38
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Hadi you made me remember a poem from molavi
(excuse me for writing in persian but if I translate it it would loose part of it's beauty )
هیچ کنجی بی دَد و بی دام نیست
جز به خلوتگاه حق آرام نیست
(excuse me for writing in persian but if I translate it it would loose part of it's beauty )
هیچ کنجی بی دَد و بی دام نیست
جز به خلوتگاه حق آرام نیست
فَوَعِزَّتِكَ مَا أَجِدُ لِذُنُوبِی سِوَاكَ غَافِراً وَ لاَ أَرَى لِكَسْرِی غَیْرَكَ جَابِراً
به عزتت سوگند براى گناهانم جز تو آمرزنده اى نيابم و براى شکستگيم جز تو شکسته بندى نبينم
(بخشی از مناجات التّائبین مناجات خمس عشره)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:21
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(1390 ارديبهشت 22، 9:48)Hadi نوشته است:!and some countries don't allow girls to attend classes with scarf! Iran's parleman has seats for other religions. what about Germaney?!
I compeletly agree that Germany is more developed than Iran, but they don't follow the rights of humanity and etc as well as us
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Whaaaaat?????l
I dont agree with you
actually you are not really free to choose your religion
some of religions are ilegal and you can get in big trouble if you are a member of them
Germany should be neutral country by religion questions
in Germany you are free to have any religion you want
but there is a role
it says that in schools there are no religios symbols allowed
so the teachers are not allowed to wear any symbols like a cross and scrafs
but on the street you can wear anythink you want
your religion should be 100% unimportant
you can seat on the intersection and call the police man as your new god ,it is NOT IMPORTANT( as long as you dont harm anybody)l
Whaaaaat?????l
I dont agree with you
actually you are not really free to choose your religion
some of religions are ilegal and you can get in big trouble if you are a member of them
Germany should be neutral country by religion questions
in Germany you are free to have any religion you want
but there is a role
it says that in schools there are no religios symbols allowed
so the teachers are not allowed to wear any symbols like a cross and scrafs
but on the street you can wear anythink you want
your religion should be 100% unimportant
you can seat on the intersection and call the police man as your new god ,it is NOT IMPORTANT( as long as you dont harm anybody)l
اگر تنهاترين تنها شوم باز خدا هست او جانشين همه نداشتنهاست (دکتر علی شریعتی)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:30
i
wait guys
we need some opposite ideas if we wanna continue our discussion
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or we should change the topic
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ای طلیعه هشتم!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:33
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I agree with tavallod
I think this is where we most continue (or restart) this discussion
http://www.ktark.com/thread-398-page-116.html
I think this is where we most continue (or restart) this discussion
http://www.ktark.com/thread-398-page-116.html
فَوَعِزَّتِكَ مَا أَجِدُ لِذُنُوبِی سِوَاكَ غَافِراً وَ لاَ أَرَى لِكَسْرِی غَیْرَكَ جَابِراً
به عزتت سوگند براى گناهانم جز تو آمرزنده اى نيابم و براى شکستگيم جز تو شکسته بندى نبينم
(بخشی از مناجات التّائبین مناجات خمس عشره)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:39
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(1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:33)توبه18 نوشته است:I agree with tavallod
I think this is where we most continue (or restart) this discussion
http://www.ktark.com/thread-398-page-116.html
Nooooooooooo
come on
let it be in English
come on
let it be in English
ای طلیعه هشتم!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:39
Allright
we will do it
Tobe can you plz present your proposal??????l
I could not really understand what it was about
but I think it would be interesting
we will do it
Tobe can you plz present your proposal??????l
I could not really understand what it was about
but I think it would be interesting
اگر تنهاترين تنها شوم باز خدا هست او جانشين همه نداشتنهاست (دکتر علی شریعتی)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:42
I've just seen that you posed a topic
what's happened
!!!!!
ای طلیعه هشتم!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
من آمدم تا دلم را بر ضریح تو حلقه زنم و به دور کعبه عشق تو طواف دهم.
آمدم تا اشک چشمانم را دخیل سقا خانهات کنم.
آمدم تا از کبوتران حرمت گردم تا به هر صبح به دور گنبد طلائیت به پرواز درآیم
مولایم! ای طبیب دردمندان!
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:45
well I thought it is an interesting and important dicussion and I wanted others who can't or don' want to write in english participate in this discussion .
فَوَعِزَّتِكَ مَا أَجِدُ لِذُنُوبِی سِوَاكَ غَافِراً وَ لاَ أَرَى لِكَسْرِی غَیْرَكَ جَابِراً
به عزتت سوگند براى گناهانم جز تو آمرزنده اى نيابم و براى شکستگيم جز تو شکسته بندى نبينم
(بخشی از مناجات التّائبین مناجات خمس عشره)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:46
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why ?????
we can also discuss it here in english it would be very good 4 us
so come on present it to us
ll
we can also discuss it here in english it would be very good 4 us
so come on present it to us
llاگر تنهاترين تنها شوم باز خدا هست او جانشين همه نداشتنهاست (دکتر علی شریعتی)
1390 ارديبهشت 22، 21:50
I compeletly disagree!
But thats enough!
Religions that have a holy book has freedom and seats in our parleman
As I told you before, Germany is better than Iran but they don't follow the rules of humanity as well!
Lets change the topic
But thats enough!
Religions that have a holy book has freedom and seats in our parleman
As I told you before, Germany is better than Iran but they don't follow the rules of humanity as well!
Lets change the topic
هرچند حال و روز زمین و زمان بد است \ یک قطعه از بهشت در آغوش مشهد است
حتی فرشته ای که به پابوس آمده \ انگار بین رفتن و ماندن مردّد است
اینجا مدینه نیست، نه اینجا مدینه نیست \ پس بوی عطر کیست که مثل محمد است؟
حتی اگر به آخرخط هم رسیده ای \ اینجا برای عشق شروعی مجدد است
جایی که آسمان به زمین وصل می شود \ جایی که بین عالم و آدم، زبانزد است
هر جا دلی شکست به این جا بیاورید \ اینجا بهشت، شهر خدا، شهر مشهد است
حسین ارام جانم، حسین روح و روانم
بیا نگار اشنا، شب غمم سحر نما
مرا به نوکری خود، شها تو مفتخر نما