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Guys,
for God sake, be careful aboout some words!

if you would like to use a word like prostitu/tion, please use / or \ or whatever between letters!
(1391 ارديبهشت 8، 23:17)Hadi نوشته است: [ -> ]Guys,
for God sake, be careful aboout some words!

if you would like to use a word like prostitu/tion, please use / or \ or whatever between letters!

why????
(1391 ارديبهشت 8، 22:29)saiddeli نوشته است: [ -> ]
nice opinions, like it

what I can add? really don't know

but I googled the word "prostitution" on the net and I came across a website providing some facts about it

here is the link

my opinion in this field is that

First of all we really cant feel their situation, then I remember the Dehnamaki's Documentary "Faqro Fahsha" the part which a girl was in a taxi when the taxi driver intentionally was playing a recorded tape of a disable person of war's speeches to see what the reaction is

She suddenly broke down, that means she was forced to do that, that means she still had a heart to hear such things , that means she needed help

We have the charity "Komite Emdad", but is it a practical charity, I mean is it real?
I don't think so, bcz if it was, why these girls would ruin their whole lives

TNX FRIENDS


WoW
I haven t seen this documentary yet
i will find it and watch it as soon as possible

Can you or anybody else tell us more about it?????



the facts from your added link are mainly from UK
so i don t think that all facts are transferable to iran


but your statistic showed something very important
it said 9 of 10 women would rather like to exit from prostitution
I think the numbers in Iran with its conservative society are a bit higher


Words:l

transferable: قابل مقایسه
rather like to: بیشتر دوست داشتن














hello everybody
I have'nt seen that documentry , but I think u got this cycle ( becomin a pros/titute in iran) wrong
it's not like that you think , it's totally diffrent according to the things that i'v read/heard/saw

the story normally begins with thing like scaping from home ,
a girl escapes frome home(for any reason) and then she founds herself alone in the street , and this is where the tagedy begins
in iran there are many charities , komite emdad is the biggest one of them , and there are many local ones and many good people who help their neighbours , friends , etc. who are having echonomic problems
the woman who need food for her children has a realy diffrent story with a woman who becomes pros/titute
this woman can ask help from those charities , or go to simple works like baking or cleaning other peoples houses and etc.

but the one who becomes prostit/tute in iran is'nt normally such a person as much as I know

let's return to the story of that girl who has escaped from home.
we said that there are many charities in iran , but the truth is that she can't go to any of them , cause they ask for her name , for her family , and this way her family can find her !

so she faces lack of money
many of these girls become adicted after escaping (according to the stress and loneliness and other mentall problems they got after escape)
many times they first become addicted and then they sell themselves for mony (for both living and buying drugs) and this addiction gauranties that they would continue this job!
some othertimes they do s//e**x for any reasons (money, pleasure , etc.) and they become addicted by their employers! again to gauranty that they would continue their job...

this addiction is also common in pros/titutes in other countries!
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(1391 ارديبهشت 9، 1:18)eshtiagh نوشته است: [ -> ]
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(1391 ارديبهشت 8، 23:17)Hadi نوشته است: [ -> ][align=-WEBKIT-AUTO]Guys,
[align=-WEBKIT-AUTO]for God sake, be careful aboout some words!

[align=-WEBKIT-AUTO]if you would like to use a word like prostitu/tion, please use / or \ or whatever between letters!
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[align=-WEBKIT-AUTO]why????
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I've heard that it may cause f+i+l+t+e+r+i+n+g
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About difficulties in finding a job, I know that finding a suitable job is difficult. But some one who's in an urgent condition for money shouldn't expect a perfect job and has better to stick up to low jobs. like what i said: working in houses
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I couldn't get what Amu Saeid said! some one make it more clear plz
which documentaries?!
one more thing , Those organizations who wanna help the Indian girls can find them if they act wiser.
It's obvious that their families won't give up their girls for nothing!
But the police can wear usual clothes and ask usual people about these girls like a man who wants to buy them. They should pretend that they're customers(is this word right here?!) and want to pay for the girls just as every one does.
Then finding their place will be more probable.
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p.s: how often do u change the topics here?
(1391 ارديبهشت 9، 8:41)Amirhossein18 نوشته است: [ -> ]
hello everybody
I haven't seen that documentary , but I think u got this cycle ( becoming a pros/titute in iran) wrong
it's not like that you think , it's totally different according to the things that i've read/heard/saw

the story normally begins with thing like escaping from home ,
a girl escapes frome home(for any reason) and then she founds herself alone in the street , and this is where the tragedy begins
in iran there are many charities , komite emdad is the biggest one of them , and there are many local ones and many good people who help their neighbors , friends , etc. who are having economic problems
the woman who need food for her children has a really different story with a woman who becomes pros/titute
this woman can ask help from those charities , or go to simple works like baking or cleaning other peoples houses and etc.

but the one who becomes prostit/tute in iran isn't normally such a person as much as I know

let's return to the story of that girl who has escaped from home.
we said that there are many charities in iran , but the truth is that she can't go to any of them , cause they ask for her name , for her family , and this way her family can find her !

so she faces lack of money
many of these girls become addicted after escaping (according to the stress and loneliness and other mental problems they got after escape)
many times they first become addicted and then they sell themselves for money (for both living and buying drugs) and this addiction guaranties that they would continue this job!
some other times they do s//e**x for any reasons (money, pleasure , etc.) and they become addicted by their employers! again to guaranty that they would continue their job...

this addiction is also common in pros/titutes in other countries!


hmmmmmm
why do this organizations call the families?l
I mean the girls escaped from home because they had problems there
and now the help organizations call the families and send the poor girls back home???Khansariha (134)l
thats not the way to help this people(girls)l



and also on this case
the women were not born in this situation
as amirhossein said many of this p.r.*****tuds start this profession in a very young age
and many make a mistake:l
they get involved with organized crime

many of this girls don't just work for themselves
they have someone , who force them to work
he protect them but also put them under pressure
so if the girls don't work he beats them and sometimes (you won't believe me) they threat the women to death
so they can't just exit the job
the "employer" will follow her and punish her
he gets all their money and the girls get just a very little piece their money

(1391 ارديبهشت 8، 13:46)پریا نوشته است: [ -> ]one more thing , Those organizations who wanna help the Indian girls can find them if they act wiser.
It's obvious that their families won't give up their girls for nothing!
But the police can wear usual clothes and ask usual people about these girls like a man who wants to buy them. They should pretend that they're customers(is this word right here?!)
It is correct Khansariha (18) and want to pay for the girls just as every one does.
Then finding their place will be more probable

it is sad but the families really do give away their children
because they are deeply in dept

but thats not always the case
I heard 4 example about a girl who was taken away by her own aunt from her family in a village to work in Bombay
the family had NO idea what the girl really did in Bombay
her aunt sold the girl to a bordello
but the girl could escape from there

the lack of education in this countries is one of the main causes for this stories


and about the help organizations: this organizations actually do it like you said
they go in with normal cloths
but it is not so easy as you thik : this bordellos are run by criminal bands
this bands are very dangerous and if they find out that someone wants to take one of their p.rosti/tues they will make trouble


WORDS:

organized crime: تبهکاری سازمان یافته
pressure:فشار
threat:تهدید
employer:کارفرما

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thank you Hadi for remembering me on F.I.L.T.E.R.I.N.G
had absolutely forgotten about that
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@Paria:l
I try to chance the themes as soon as possible
normally we have a discussion time of 1-2 week
but if the themes are too interesting we discuss more
if anybody have an idea for the next discussion plz let us know

PS: because some of you had asked me:l
if anybody wants that I correct their texts plz let me know.l
I will send you your corrected texts per P.KH

Hi!
Here are two suggestions for the next topic, As I've missed writing in English!
a. Do you help beggars? why/why not?
b. How much have u followed your childhood dreams?
hello everybody
I agree with Paria
i think the first theme is more interesting
so I suggest to talk about it first ^^
because i think it is more connected to our previous theme

so the new theme is

Do you help beggars or people in financial distress?
why?why not?


words


financial distress: بحران مالی
hi
yes ,i do.
because imam sadegh said:
we help all of them because we are afraid of (rad kardan) who are really poor people.
thanks.
before we begin i have one question
is there any kind of organization in iran which helps homeless people?

and if yes how is it financed?
are this organizations financed through private persons or through state????l

if there is help through an organization..........how does this help look like??
is it in financial form or do this people get food or maybe even somewhere to sleep????
(1391 ارديبهشت 23، 12:34)eshtiagh نوشته است: [ -> ]
before we begin i have one question
is there any kind of organization in iran which helps homeless people?

and if yes how is it financed?
are this organizations financed through private persons or through state????l

if there is help through an organization..........how does this help look like??
is it in financial form or do this people get food or maybe even somewhere to sleep????


There are organizations to help homeless children. But about adults... I don't know
government helps them with giving loans for buying house. But if they are broke and are not able to return the money the situation becomes tough...

It has always been a big question for me:
Helping beggars or not?

Because I thinks with helping them we are encouraging other poor people to beg for money. I've heard that they're income is more than a person cleaning the street.

some beggars work in a band and with helping them we're helping that band which might be so rich.

I once saw an interview with some beggars. They were offered to work for municipality but easily refused to do so!!
What does it mean?!

On the other hand,Ana is right. helping the poor is an obligation for us.

But the question is: How can we make sure that the person we're helping is poor?

loan: وام
broke: ورشکسته یا کاملاً فقیر
municipality: شهرداری
I think the state has the wrong conception to stop homelessness
the right way is to help the people before they get homeless, at moment they just get help after they become homeless
there are no organizations for prevention!!!!!!!!!!!l
I think if there were any kind of trust-able organizations the people would definitely pay money


in other countries (in this case germany) there is something like a social net
this terminus isn't just used in connection with Internet, but also in politics
in this concept people get money from state after they get unemployed
they get one year their full sum of wage and after 2 years a minimum sum of 340 euro + an apartment+the costs of heating the house in summer
and for every child the state pays 150 euro

ps: this concept is named Hartz IV

I think although it isn't enough, it is much better than in many many other countries and even USA!!!!!l





i'm agree with paria , my father said some people that ask help from other people in some streets or some alleis are so rich and they are covet , if u know some poor and you are surethat they are poor , u can help them . s.times i see e.g a man who doesn't have hand or leg , i commiserate & help him . i think it's charity and it's better for our healthy & life ....
Just one thing
The same organization exist in Iran. They pay you for 18 month in case of unemployment. I don't know how much it is but it should be something in the range of 200 thousand tomans.
it's awful Khansariha (8)